And I went to school, and I was, you know, so blessed to be one of the pioneering integrated disabled students into the mainstream school system, thanks to my mom's efforts in the government, as just a civilian of Australia back then. And, it was it was a big deal that there was someone just in public back then in a wheelchair. Like, back then, it wasn't common at all to see someone, first and foremost, with a limb deficiency in a wheelchair outside. But to even go to a school where it's not being common at all, ever. And so kids are kids, you know. They they just have no filters. It's pure human nature. So bullying happens to everyone, and it did happen to me. Mhmm. I think I internalized it a lot. I tried to smile on the outside, not really tell my parents much. I did head butt one of my bullies and was reported to the office and, you know, got reported for head butting someone and giving him a bleeding nose. But at the same time, it was just part of life, and that was the life that I didn't wanna live. I I was thinking if I'm just gonna be bullied for the rest of my life, and, Lisa, so many people go up to kids and say, what do you wanna be when you grow up? I'm like, I don't wanna I don't know. I I don't know if I wanna grow up. Yeah. Because I don't know what that looks like. Am I just gonna be a a burden to my parents rest of my life? I'm not gonna get married. And so at age eight, I started contemplating suicide. And at age ten, I attempted, drowning myself in my bathtub. And it's not that I physically couldn't go through with it. I was saved by one thought, and it was a visual seeing my mom and my dad crying at my grave wishing they could have done something more. And that's when I realized I love them more than I hated my own pain and decided to stay by the grace and mercy of God. And, you know, like, you know, my parents, they they didn't cuddle me. They didn't let me play the victim card. I vacuumed the floor for two dollars a week and, bought my own toys. You know, they didn't spare the belt. I got whipped when I when they found my fingerprints, when I did something wrong. I got disciplined really well. They pushed me in my strength still. My strengths were in math, and I could compete really well in math. Yeah. At age thirteen, I I became number one at math for six years at school, and it was the only good thing I could remember that I could achieve that everyone could notice. And then chess, and my parents were there for me, but it was it was difficult, and suicidal thoughts are are very common these days. No matter what age, there are now kids even committing suicide at age eight or nine.

Mhmm.

And and it's an epidemic and a disability of the mind and the heart, really, where I think we all can say no one really knows what it feels to be limbless unless you're limbless, but we all have a broken heart. We all have the same question. Why am I going through something difficult? Why me? Why why can't things be different? What what's in my future? Do I really have hope? Mhmm. And when you don't know the truth and you don't have that anchor for your soul, you'll be drifting slowly into the lies where the little voices in my head saying, Nick, you're not good enough. Just give up. You know, that that's where you need to consider the truth.

Yes.

And not not just follow what the world says is beautiful or purposeful or valuable or successful. Yes. It was hard, and it's hard for everyone. I I still go through depression.

Sure. Absolutely.

I I was in depression November just last year Mhmm. For about a month. Yeah. And I'm not afraid to say it, you know, and I went through counseling before. And I think I think we all need to understand that just because we're Christians, it doesn't mean that you don't get depressed. You know, counseling has been so powerful for me. People like, wow, Nick, you never cry. No. I do cry. And I got a beautiful wife, and and she's my number one supporter and cheerleader, and she just hugs me extra long when she knows, you know, I got punched in the guts or in the face. But but you just keep on going one day at a time knowing that it does build you up.

Yeah. One day at a time. I mean Yeah. Nick, this subject is so poignant right now because we did just lose a friend on Sunday.

I'm so sorry.

Took his life. And you look at this person on the outside, had everything everything. But, you know, what what would you say to somebody that is even contemplating that? Because I my thing is is, like, if you can just find one thing to hold on to hope, right, and just give it another day before you do that. For you, you said you started thinking about your parents and thinking about them standing at your graveside, and you love them more than you didn't like your life. You know? But, I mean, I'm sure you've talked to other people that are in this season. And I I didn't mean to go here, but I want to because I think it's, you're right. There's an epidemic, I believe, of depression and anxiety and and all that and people feeling hopeless. And you and I know the truth, and I'd love for you just to be honest about that. What is the truth? I mean Yeah. What did you anchor what did you anchor your boat on, you know, during that time?

Well, look, first and foremost, five things that, you know, to get out of, a hole, if you will, because you can't do it alone. But here are some five point pointers. Number one is write out ten things that you're thankful for and, read the blessings out Mhmm. And say thank you, God, for these ten things. The second thing is write out a different list. The three worst days of your life in the last five years, and think about how it could have been even worse. Now that may seem offensive. I just buried, less than ten years ago my biological father. At least I had a friendship with him. At least I could say goodbye.

Mhmm.

At least, guys, you're still alive, and you've been maybe hoping for a miracle. Well, maybe this is the one miracle you've been waiting for, the interview moment between Lis Lisa Nichols and Nick Vujicic to let you know that there is still hope, to believe in something you don't see. You know, it it it's faith. It sounds foolish. The third thing though that you can do is hold on to a verse, from scripture. My favorite one to hold on to is Philippians four thirteen. I can endure all things through Christ who strengthens me, and I even make the Nick version of it saying I can endure even this through Christ who strengthens me. Because the highs get higher, but the lows get lower.

Mhmm. And

the and the and the perception of maturity and strength actually is the gap between the high highs and the low lows. And the high highs beats get higher and the lows get lower, and that's the life expansion of maturity and experience that we get as we get older. The fourth thing is to go get counseling. Go get a Christian counselor one on one. And the fifth thing is go help someone else in need who cannot even thank you. And I think that's how the five steps have been for me to remind myself that when the crap hits the fan, these are the practical things. As far as the truth, I gave my life to Jesus when I actually heard the answer from my biggest question. The biggest question was why was I born this way? The answer I found in John chapter nine.

Yes.

A man was born a man was born blind. No one knew why. And Jesus said it was done so that the works of God would be revealed through him, and Jesus spits in the dirt, makes a clay, puts puts it on the man's face, and the dude sees. Now Jesus don't sit the blind man down and say, hey. My name is JC. I'm the healer. I'm gonna give you a facial, but when we're done, when you wash, you're gonna be good. You're gonna see. The blind man, though, was the one that really struck me, not the miracle itself. Because if I was blind, I probably would have stopped this stranger who spits in the dirt and wants to put mud on my face. I would have asked him, who are you? What do you want? Tell me the plan. I'll tell you then if I allow you to do it. Yeah. It's interesting that the blind man believed blind. Mhmm. And so it's walk by faith and not by sight. Mhmm. And so that's what really hit me. I'm like, god, I don't need to know the plan. I just need to believe that you have one, and today I believe you have one. Yeah. Give me arms and legs, change my circumstance, but if you don't change my circumstance, change my heart and use me. And I now tell everyone that, you know, when you don't get a miracle, you can still be one. And the one thing that kept me alive, Lisa, is imagining heaven with arms and legs and having someone come up to me in heaven and saying, hey. You were eighteen years old. You don't know who I am. I met you, saw you walk by my house, walking your dog. And I I met you, and you smiled, and I was contemplating suicide. But then I saw a limbless dude walking his dog in his wheelchair, and your smile challenged me and thought, if that guy can smile, then maybe there's hope for me too. You saved my life, and I then later came to Jesus. It's the seeds. See, we're farmers. We're we're not growers. We're farmers. We scatter the seed. God does the growing.

Yeah.

And so imagining now, you know, fast forward now when I'm twenty four, I actually meet a dude with no limbs, nineteen month old Daniel Martinez with a little foot like mine, and his mother weeping saying, thank you for being our miracle. You're our miracle. We've been praying for a miracle. And now Daniel is in college doing business and wants to become a speaker and an author like his uncle Nick. And, you know, Daniel and Nick are gonna have arms and legs in heaven weeping and thanking God for this opportunity. That's the one thing that has kept me through.

Yeah.

If I can just help one person not give up, then it's all worth it.

Oh, amen. And you have, Nick. My goodness. I mean, we'll talk about that more. I mean, your impact really is more than you could ask or imagine. But if you're not going through what you went through, you know I mean, god can do anything. He can use anyone. Right? But he's just used you in such a mighty, mighty way.

Bless God.

Yeah. For sure. I'm gonna ask you just a couple more questions, and then we need to take a quick break, and then we'll be right back. But, let's talk about your speaking journey because I think it was a janitor that spoke something into you. Right? I think he may have been about seventeen or something. I just love it. It was, like, he'll he, he awoke something in you. Right?

He did. You know, my uncle Sam, when I was, like, twelve or eleven, he said, one day you're gonna shake hands with presidents. I know it. And I'm like, yeah. Alright. And then there was a speaker that came to my school from America called Reggie Dabbs, and I was thirteen when he spoke to everyone, and his speech is, like, just very inspiring. Don't give up. I'm like, wow. That's so cool. That's a cool job. Right? Like, to speak and get paid to, like, give hope. Like, that's cool.

Yes.

That would but that was it. That was it. The janitor at my high school was the one that for two years became a friend of mine, and, he prophesied over me after he saw me become vice president of the high school at grade eleven, freshman. No. Not freshman. What do you call it out here? Junior.

It's a junior.

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And I've been here for twenty two years, and I still don't know what it is.

It's okay. Yeah.

And, anyway, so so he said, are you a Christian? And, I said, yeah. He said, I saw you do a speech in front of fourteen hundred students. You were very good. Said, oh, thank you very much. He said, I see that you're a Christian, and God's gonna take you all around the world, and you're gonna speak. And I laughed. I laughed out loud, And I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, my brain already I'm already a stock trader, an options trader on stock market at age seventeen. Gonna go into real estate. I'm gonna do financial planning and accounting. I'm gonna have employees to be my hands and feet. That's what the plan was. And this guy is like, you're gonna speak. I'm like, speak about what? And he said, your story. And I said, I don't have a story. He says, yes. You do. I said, no. I don't. And he said, can I please organize your first speech? And for a couple months, I said no. And I finally said yes. And I was speaking in front of these six students. I was so nervous. My palms are sweaty. My knees were shaking. And I just spoke from the heart. You know, the testimony that we all have, Lisa, when we know the truth that God has a plan and then he can redeem everyone is who were you before you met Jesus? What were your thoughts and feelings? How did you meet Jesus? And what did that mean for you now for your thoughts and feelings? And that was it. And, just shared my my journey, my attempted suicide, and people were crying. And then they started calling me, said, can you do this church? Can you do this school and all that? I didn't think much of it, but he was the he was the spark that then led me to a school two years later, and this girl cried on my shoulder. She said thank you. No one's ever told me that they love me. No one's ever told me that I'm beautiful the way that I am. And that's when I knew I was born to be a speaker. Yeah. And that was two thousand two, and I bought the URL w w w dot seven billion souls dot org, which was the world's population back then. And so now it's been incredible and moved from Australia to America as soon as I graduated And, been here ever since, I live in Texas, the great state of Texas.

Mhmm. And,

we got cows and chickens

You just went bass fishing?

We just went bass fishing, and we got some catfish too and cooked them up and went tubing on Lake Fork, and I drive the boat. That's what we love to do. Have fire outside and cook some fish over the open fire and see the sunset and go fishing and just play board games when it's raining. We play Monopoly with my kids and, cash flow. I don't know if you heard of cash flow board game by Robert Kiasat.

No. Is it good?

It's an excellent board game.

I wanna

I actually wanna make my own version of it. It's so old, but it's it's good for the kids. Yeah. Financial literacy is really common in our home, and so we we love to go fun and talk about God and making a difference. So, you know, my oldest son, he's thirteen. He's got two companies, and he gave away three thousand dollars to the poor and needy and, Dallas downtown homeless veterans. And, it's not because I told him to do so. He just sees what what his daddy does and how he does it and how he saves money and how he gives money away. And so, you know, leading leading our country well starts in our homes and and praying for revival, that's where it begins. It's at our home. So

Amen.

We're we're so happy, man. We've I've gone through a really rough fifteen months, and and you know a little bit about it. Mac Granada knows a little bit about it. Sean Copeland knows a little bit about it. And, Sean's been a great friend too. But it's, you know, you go through ups and downs, and it just means, there's more refining to be done, and God's preparing me for for next level of of life and my speaking career. You know, now that I've got four kids, I don't wanna leave them as much. Mhmm. You know, they're only young once, so we're shifting our assets to now readjust to passive income and also, starting coaching. Something online that that he can do something behind the camera, do some roundtable coaching and help people write their book, help people polish their story, and also become a speaker if that's what they're being called to do. And so Billy Graham always said that we're all the next Billy Grahams. And we were privileged to meet him in his home, me and my wife, when we were engaged in twenty eleven. For forty five minutes. He talked straight, and it was beautiful and prayed for us. And, I just want everyone to know that we've all got a story and and a place in this world and a purpose that God has for us. And and so that's the next journey, next season in my journey. And we're happy in Texas and moved away from California five years ago for multiple reasons, and, we're we're excited for this next season of life. I'm only in my mid forties, and

Yeah.

I'm I'm really looking forward to the next twenty years.

Well, it's like Ken Blanchard said, to me when he was on the podcast. He goes, the best is yet to come. You know? And you have got so much exciting stuff. And I wanna talk about we do need to take a quick break, and we'll be right back with Nick on the Something Extra podcast.

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So welcome back, everyone, to the Something Extra podcast with my dear, dear, amazing, inspirational friend, Nick Vujicic. Nick, I wanna talk about this because you you talked about being a stock trader. And, you know, you went on to get a degree in accounting and finance and, but at twenty at nineteen years old, you went to to Africa, South Africa. You wanted to save the orphans, and you gave away twenty thousand dollars. I mean, this this idea of giving started with you at a very young age. You know? What, you know, what compelled that bold obedience? And I'm sure you felt God calling you to do that.

You know, it it it's it's it's really all thanks to God through my parents. My parents fled communism regime in former Yugoslavia in nineteen sixty two. My mom was six when the military took her dad to jail. He had possession of a Bible and was a pacifist, and they didn't like that. It was mandatory to shoot the enemy during the war at that point. And then he was given an ultimatum after, abuse and starvation to go pick up wounded soldiers on the field. Was that against your religion? No. So that's what happened. He escaped, ran all the way home, and got the kids and fled the country. If you were not orthodox, in former Yugoslavia, you were seen as a cult leader. And so my dad's dad as well in nineteen sixty nine fled the country after he went through jail, got shot, picking up wounded soldiers, recovered, got his family, and left for Yugoslavia. So both of my parents, they met in Australia, but they were in refugee camps for two years. And when we grew up around the dining table, my brother and sister who have arms and legs, we always heard the stories of what food they had or lack of Mhmm. And how their home when they did have a home was dirt floor. And my dad and mom always said when when you get up on your own two feet, son, don't forget the people who cannot. And so, it was at age nineteen I also sponsored, ten compassion international orphans around the world, for thirty eight dollars a month, and, yeah, went to Africa. At that time, in two thousand two, the Internet was really, really fresh. In two thousand two, I recorded me preaching three different messages, went on a DVD, and the DVD went viral. That's how you reach the world, back in the two thousand, two thousands. I I had got seventy million views of a different DVD that was uploaded, ripped, if you will, up on YouTube. So I was the first viral speaker, to go viral as a teenager, but it was always about helping people and bullying and resilience and all that. Google says that I'm the number three speaker in the world today, and I'm so blessed to always bring up in convo with my kids about their granddaddy that they don't remember. Mhmm. And, you know, my mom and stories with them and giving back. So it's always been a part of who we are and why we believe what we believe. It's it's because someone who had something always gave to someone else, and so my parents would also tell us the the generosity that they received when they came to Australia. But not to lean upon that, but get up on your own feet and give to someone else. And so that's where that came from. It was an incredible, incredible trip at age nineteen.

Legacy. I mean, you know, that's what your parents did for you.

Now I

mean, you they and you just grew up modeling what you saw in them, which is so beautiful. Now your kids are doing the same, so I love it. Nick, I mean, I I would just encourage our listeners, and we'll try to put some of this in the show notes. But there are YouTube videos out there of you skateboarding, surfing, playing music, hitting a golf ball, a vacuuming when you're a little. I mean, I just I I just love that. I mean, really, I mean, you just you haven't let anything stop you.

Thank god you you you keep going. My biggest inspiration today is my wife. We've been through a lot. We've had some external attacks, reasons why we moved out of California.

Mhmm.

Cancel culture. I got canceled out of Chase JPMorgan in twenty nineteen and, had some, very difficult years of transitioning from California to Texas. And, that was before COVID happened, and then COVID happened. And so the shutdown as a speaker was difficult as well. But, look, it's it's it's made us stronger, and we have a saying at home, it gets better. You know, no matter how bad it gets, it's it gets better. No matter how good it gets, it gets better. And so we we we're we're thankful. You know, and maybe maybe it's because I'm I'm a little spoiled. We get a lot of wonderful testimonies from people

Yeah.

Writing into our ministry, nick v ministries dot org, about how a video saved their life or read a book and it changed their perspective and, just so blessed to to at least see just a fraction, of the

impact. Yeah. And that's priceless, isn't it?

I I think that's what has helped me a lot. Oh. I think I think it's though it's those stories Yeah. You know, that that says, okay. It's really rough right now, but do you remember, Nick, when?

Yes. Yeah. Right. Oh, that's so good. Well, I love how at the very beginning, you were talking about the gratitude and making sure that you're writing those things down. And it is good. I mean, that's you know, all throughout scripture, God, like, was constantly setting up things to remember. It's not because he forgot. It's because he knows we forget. Right?

Exactly.

And so whether it was building an altar or, you know, whether it was, you know, Passover, you know, whatever it was. I mean, we we need to take that time just to remember his goodness and what, you know, what he's done, and that that certainly helps you, you know, get through. It's like you haven't let me down yet, God. You've been faithful, and I know you're gonna be faithful again.

Amen.

Oh my goodness. And then sometimes, you know I mean, Nick, you even talked about it, praying for arms and legs. It's like that trust even when your circumstances don't change. Yeah. And I think that's you know? But to your point, though, that's faith. Without that trust yeah. That's faith. It's not you're not walking by sight. Yep. Right? So

because I I I know he can do it. And if he wants to do it, he can do it. Yeah. But if he doesn't, then he's got a reason.

Yes.

For Physical healings, no one can tell me for sure if god's gonna give me arms and legs. Mhmm. But I can tell you his perfect plan will happen if I allow him to hear my yes

Yeah.

My yes every day.

Yeah. That is so good. Yeah. Yeah. Now I read somewhere where you have a goal. What's your goal? I mean, you you'd said at the beginning, there's seven billion people. Now there's eight billion people. You have a goal, you know, of reaching how many people?

Yeah. Look. I'm gonna stream.

And I hope.

Yeah. Yeah. In by twenty twenty three, we actually preach the gospel, for a total of twenty million dollars over twenty years. Seven hundred and fifty million souls heard the gospel of Jesus Christ, broadcasted on national television. In twenty twenty three, we then made a a goal that over the next was at that time saying twenty twenty nine. So between let's talk six to seven years. We would reach another billion with the gospel. So twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six, we reached under a further hundred and forty six million people for two point six seven cents a soul. And, we're so so blessed. There's a twenty minute, mini documentary highlighting the twenty years. We just celebrated that anniversary in November last year. And so we have another, what would that be? Eight fifty million, over the next years to then reach a total, subtotal so far of one point seven five billion here in the gospel. So today, a billion people in China has been acquainted with my story motivationally, so not with the gospel.

Mhmm.

A billion people in, India, same as two billion Yeah. Motivationally. Yeah. And nine hundred and fifty million people have heard, have heard the gospel of Jesus Christ, so far. And so we do have that goal, and I think in nine years I don't know why. I just like numbers, but for some reason, I'm like, by age fifty two, I have a by age fifty two goal

Yes.

That I'm praying over, and I just I just don't think it's that difficult to make a difference in the world if if we come together? Yeah. I imagine two hundred million people giving two dollars a day, which is a hundred and forty six billion a year to build hospitals, schools, and orphanages and alleviate the suffering of humankind. That's my that's my next ten year goal. And I'm going into productions, going into movies Yes. Animation for kids, and, stuff that I can reach people, not just with a message for the heart, but tangibly as well. I think I think it really should go hand in hand. I think a lot of the church has lost their goodwill, that we used to have Yeah. Twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, and we're kinda more of a seen as a country club gathering once a week that happens to be on a Sunday that don't read their Bible from Monday to Saturdays and not aware of what righteous accountability is and, reading the Bible every day. And so it's kind of where I believe revival is. I I'm sick and tired of the word revival as an evangelist. I think it's a disgusting word, not because of what God means for it, but I think it's just being abused, misused so much so much that I don't even like the word anymore. It's that bad to me. It's almost blasphemy where people think revival is because how many people are at a gathering for how many nights. It's not a revival. Revival is when the church gets ready for the second coming of Christ, and I think revival is when a half a million able churches can pick up one foster kid off the list. It's when we don't have thirty two thousand homeless veterans in Dallas. Yeah. Yeah. I I think that's when revival has begun.

Yeah. So

I I think that's kinda where I'm leaning towards these days. Yeah. We we go through international doors and and reach tens of millions at a time. I struggle to find five churches to do one thing together here in the cities. Mhmm. So I'm actually walking away from the cities. I'm going to Deep East Texas. We're going to Lubbock, Texas. We're going to Tulsa. We're going to Arkansas and Alabama and some of the country towns, you know, in regions that that evangelists don't generally go to. I I think they're gonna be a little bit more hungry for lost souls.

Yeah. For action. For action. You know? Not just in word only, but indeed. Right?

Yeah.

That's so good. Well, let let's talk about this because I'm so excited. I am so excited about this. Let's talk about your film that is coming out, I believe, in September. Right, Nick?

Correct. Twenty fifth of September twenty twenty six will be on one thousand five hundred screens distributed through Fathom Entertainment. And, we have a distributed partner called Echo as well. You know Michael Scott really well and everyone there. And, we're we're so thankful. We're partnered with them too for the distribution of this. Our good friend, Ben Edwards, founder of Good Works Hub, has a crowdfund investment platform, specifically for movies. And, we are excited that no limbs no limits is coming out, and we have a live crowdfund opportunity for investors whether you're accredited or an unaccredited investor, which means you got a million net or less. It's not about how much money we have. It's not even about the money and the twenty percent return that you'll get if all goes well, but it's it's really about the kingdom impact purpose behind it. Mhmm. It's a film about my life story that is an extension of our ministry as a tool. You see never seen before home footage. My mom is interviewed. My brother and sister are interviewed, and the janitor who spoke over my life.

I love it.

The janitor. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, we we we we really, don't hold back anything. You know, as a family, we want people to know how difficult it really was.

Mhmm.

The childhood, the bullying, the suicide, how my siblings were affected.

Right.

My brother being in my shadow. Mhmm. My mom, taking four months, you know, to process her emotions, being a mother of her firstborn son, no limbs, no medical reason why, no warning. Mhmm. You know, it took her four months to hold me and and call me her own, if you will Yeah. With peace. They did take me home, but it it took time. And I think the rawness and transparency, and then the speaking career and meeting my wife, my wife's interviewed slightly there, and Carla who's been with me for twenty years, and and a caregiver, Peter Tafoya, who's who's with me for five years, and just traveling and all these snippets of just a very enriched life to help people know that Nick does have limits. But when I give my broken pieces a chance in the hands of God who could do all things, all things do come together for the good and do turn out beautifully in his time. Doesn't mean it's easy, and it's still not easy. Yeah. But when you don't get a miracle, go ahead and be a miracle for someone else. That's the whole the whole thing. And so, you know, if you wanna see the trailer and the crowd fund that's live, go to nick v film dot com. Mhmm. Nick v film dot com. We're raising five million dollars right now in increments as small as two hundred and fifty dollars, to actually complete the production acquisition for creative control and distributive decision making, as well as three million dollars for marketing. So we need this money now, as quick as possible, so please tell your friends. Yes. Let's get behind this. And, it's the last requirement of investment, and those in the crowd fund get the first money back. So they participate in the recoup and the twenty percent ROI, as part of the entire project, and they're the first to get their money back and paid as an investment. But imagine, Lisa, we're talking about heaven for a second.

Mhmm.

Someone go into a cinema and saying, wow. If God had a plan for a man without arms and legs to be his hands and feet, then maybe God has a plan for me, and we all can be a part of that. And you're a massive fan of The Chosen.

Yes.

And, I just had Dallas Jenkins on my podcast as my first debut, episode, no limbs no limits on my YouTube channel. But, you know, it's it's fun to be a part of that crowd effort to be a part of something bigger. And so no limbs, no limits is coming out to theaters, and we'd love for you to be

a part. So excited. Yes. Please, listeners, you know, just, see how you can get involved. And, you know, you said something earlier, Nick. I mean, we can all do something. We can all do something. Right? And so, I I know that The Chosen has been so life changing for so many people. I've had people tell me that, they look at god differently now after seeing that. And, I know your film is gonna do the same thing, Nick. It's gonna do the same thing. So we just we just can't wait. We cannot wait to continue to see what God is gonna do and how he's gonna use you in your life and, just so grateful for you. But, you know, let me ask you this. Oh, and I know that you met, Johnny Erickson Tyler.

Yeah. O'Leary.

Who I had.

Oh, Johnny Erickson Tyler.

Yes. Oh, yeah. And you know John O'Leary too?

Yeah.

With the Soul on Fire, we love John O'Leary. But, I love this because Johnny was on my podcast. I can't remember. It's probably six months or so ago, and I just loved my conversation with her. But she told you take one day at a time in the strength of God, and you will become more than a conqueror. And I just taking one day at a time, and you've said that a couple of times. Just one day at a time, and we will have to boil the ocean because sometimes it's hard to look too far. But if we just take today and like you said in the beginning, consider make the choice today to look at our life and believe that God has a plan. I think it's just so important.

Amen. Amen. And amen.

So let me ask you this. This is called something extra, Nick, and I ask Yeah. Every guest this question. What do you believe, Nick, is the something extra that every leader needs?

So many things. Humility. Yeah. I think the I think the older I get, the more I I realize I need it more.

Yes.

I think we don't like to sit, consider, contemplate, bathe, and bask in our mistakes, in our foolishness, in the the quick answers before we really prayed, in the decisions we really short should have brought our spouses in on as a team Mhmm. Thinking that you're a a good parent until something goes bad or wrong or unexpected, it's like as long as everything's going okay, then I think I guess I'm okay.

Yeah.

But even as Matt Granados has been coaching me, it's like stop and assess. It's not that just things are good or wanting to get better. It's, I think, the word fulfillment really comes in, and I think the humility that it does take to know that you're not where you're really supposed to be in different areas of your life or because two or three areas of your life are great, it means everything's great. It's not true.

Mhmm.

And it takes humility to stop and think and reflect and admit and then confess and then correct and align and realign.

Yes.

And so that's that's what has really been the pertinent front of my mind focus and and target for me.

That's so good. That is so good. Well, I could not agree more. That's the first chapter in the something extra book is humility. Humility. Yeah. Because

I gotta read that thing.

Because without it, Nick, I mean, we can start thinking I got this.

Yep.

I got it. Right?

Yep.

And the blessed life is the surrendered life. Just say, no, god. I need you. Apart from you, I can do nothing. You know? And so, yeah, I think the humility, it's there's a lot wrapped up in that. A lot wrapped

up in that. And, generally, when you write a book, that one's that was probably the last chapter Mhmm. In most books. Yeah. But for you to start it there is is so important.

Yeah.

But, yeah. Look. I'm I'm excited. I I want I want you to come and talk about something extra on my podcast. And if anyone's interested to check out that channel with Dallas Jenkins, it's my YouTube. So go to Nick v official dot com. Nick v official dot com and

Nick v official. There. Okay. That's it. Alright.

And then you'll you'll see me and Lisa. And I'm Lisa. I'm gonna be in the chair to give you four pages of questions, which you didn't get through. I'm sorry. My answers were probably too long

to do. It was just right. It is exactly what needed to be said, Nick, and I just thank you so much because I know I know about your I know your schedule. I know I know that, you know, you've you've got a lot on your plate, so I just appreciate just being in the room with you, really.

I love you. Yeah. God bless you and your podcast. And, Lord Jesus, we thank you for our listeners. We ask God that you reach out to them and give them, Lord, a touch of your spirit and your love, and we thank you, God, for what you have for us. And we give you all the praise and all the glory, Lord, for what what you've done, what you're doing, and even behind the scenes, we have no clue on. And, Lord, may you just help that one person who's thinking of giving up to not give up

Yes.

To speak your face and to hold on to truth and keep on going one day at a time. In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

Amen. Amen. Thank you, Nick.

Love you, Lisa.

You too. Bye bye. Have a great rest of the day.

You too. Bye bye.

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